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Torchwood Meta Smut. I Think Maybe I Need More Than A Day To Get This Out Of My System.
Thoughts Doodled Down To Keep In Mind If I'm Really Going To Write This Damn Thing...
This isn’t about Jack and Ianto getting their jollies - that’s actually almost an incidental part of what’s going on. This might be the least explicit/pervy d/s fic ever written, in fact. (Noo!!!)
Jack is willing to submit to Ianto, as a means of earning his trust - by taking the big step of trusting him, first. It will work, quite startlingly well, but trust is not built in a day. Hence my grumbling about this possibly becoming an epic-length piece. It took seven pages for them to agree to do it in the first place, the long-winded little darlings.
Ianto is still a bit angry and resentful about what happened to Lisa, although that is now being polluted - or diluted - by his realization that he could have handled the situation differently and, perhaps, things might have been better had he been honest with the team from the beginning. So he’s not just flat-out angry any more. Furthermore, he’s an intelligent enough lad to not take that anger out on Jack although, god knows, the temptation is there at times. For more on that, see edge-play, below.
Backstory because it’s not like Dom!Ianto just sprang out of thin air. Well, he did, really, but we need some context for the tale. Imho, Ianto is, in fact, quite the switch and is simply smart enough and flexible enough (and, okay, filthy-minded enough) to handle either role, depending on the situation. It was a part of his life with Lisa, but more like the rainbow sprinkles, not the entire sundae. Ianto had more serious d/s relationships in his past. Once Lisa was trapped in her cyber body, she actually encouraged him to at least pursue a few one-nighters, for the sake of release. He occasionally did - once he got past that initial guilt - and, on rare occasions, kept his hand in, so to speak. Will any of this come out during the course of the fic(s)? Probably. I like context.
Jack has never sub’d before - not for real. He’s played games, he’s pretended, but that sort of lying is not acceptable in this context. At first, it isn’t going to be all that easy. It certainly won’t feel quite right, and that will be clear to both participants. Ianto will work well within Jack’s boundaries, and focus heavily on rewarding good behavior. Everything will start very slowly, very low-key - no dragging out the St. Andrew’s cross on the second date (sorry, kids).
They are both committed to this course of action, though. Secondary factors are, of course, the sheer sweaty appeal of it all. Jack knows that Ianto can keep a secret (and how!) and Ianto knows the same of Jack. As long as their activity is limited to Jack’s quarters and after hours, they both feel (and are) safe, which means they’re utterly free to do as they wish, within that safe place. The sanctity of that is important to them both.
Should Jack’s hormones get the better of him and he makes a play for Ianto outside that safe place, he’ll encounter a very different Ianto (and contrariwise) because that role that Ianto has taken on is limited to the strictly defined time-and-place. Switchy!Ianto will be quite the (pleasant) surprise for Jack, should it ever be encountered - no promises that I’ll ever write that, though.
Ianto, apparently quite independent of any input from the frelling writer (he left me behind a while ago), has decided that his outfit for d/s sessions with Jack is a charcoal gray silk shirt, black wool slacks and a black leather belt that’s just a little heavier than one would expect a chap to wear with those trousers. (“Nice shoes.” “I’m glad you like them. You’ll be licking them clean if they get dirty.” Dammit, Ianto!)
So, as mentioned, things will start slowly. Ianto will focus on “forcing” Jack to do things he generally wants to do anyway. Once Jack is thinking “Hey, this isn’t so difficult! Kinda fun, actually.”, then Ianto starts bringing out the more complex situations.
Wary of Jack’s past and training, restraints are not necessarily the first order of the day. Earlier stage activities would include enforced chastity, withholding orgasm, and (for want of a better word) exposure/forced nudity. (Mental note: must go refresh terminology. Where’d I put my copy of The Bottoming Book?).
…And let’s not underestimate the appeal of Jack-as-sex-toy. Neither Ianto nor Jack are raising any objection to that one, go figure. Ianto will focus on taking his pleasure from Jack while (ostensibly) not paying any attention to Jack’s pleasure.
Rape fantasy doesn’t strike me as Jack’s cup of tea - although it certainly is a hell of a submission. But no, I can’t see that as Jack’s kink, nor would Ianto push that particular boundary, so out the window that goes. Ditto the (imho) extreme kinks such as WS, scat, etc. Play piercing, however, has not been ruled out. Nor has permanent piercing for that matter, but that falls under effects lasting outside the safe space, so that’s very much an if/when situation.
Ianto will try - not always succeed, but will try - to never refer to outside events, nor tie them in to the rewards/punishments that are being doled out in the safe space. He wants Jack to be able to maintain an even keel when in the real world (such as it is), and not risk having his hormones take over at a bad time, potentially endangering him, the team, etc. The only exception to this would be a situation like the one, below - an action/behavior imposed during an encounter, the effect of which outlasts the encounter. Indeed, the leg-shaving incident a couple of paragraphs down might be a first step in moving their interaction outside of the safe area of Jack’s quarters, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
I can perceive the notion of Ianto also testing his own limits during some early encounters - not that he’d share that with Jack, or not at first. Little things like having a well-defined plan of action, and not allowing himself to rush through it/cut corners, just because he wants to. Such challenges can remind a top of their obligations, non? No fucking the bottom’s brain out until they specifically beg for it. No moving on to the nipple clamps until after his ass is rosy pink from a spanking, etc. (Toppy folks, feel free to contribute because, damn, I’m just extrapolating from a bottom’s POV, here). I’ve a particularly wicked vision of Ianto denying himself permission to come on Jack’s face, just to see if he can follow through with a self-imposed restraint. *blink* I'm not sure how much sense that makes but, damn, I like it.
Fodder for a whole scene is buried in that above paragraph. Compel a sub to articulate exactly what they want, because they won’t get it until they clearly and coherently ask for it. I don’t know about the rest of you subs out there, but I get frightfully tongue-tied and shy during a scene, or so it seems to me in my admittedly hormone-addled memory, which is a shame because dirty talk is so freaking hawt. This would certainly be one way for a top to make that happen, and if the bottom is embarassed by it, but really wants to do it, then fun is had by all.
At the other end of the scale, I might have to dust off the “You get two words. Please and more.” Scene I wrote out yonks ago. Hawtness with a two word vocabulary.
Don’t ask me why, but Ianto’s suggesting that at some point, he tells Jack to shave his legs - er, Jack’s legs, that is - because that will leave them feeling weird for the next few days and will be thinking of him/them for the duration. Trust me, guys, freshly shaved legs feel funky, albeit in a very sensual way - as long as you remember to moisturize! Of course, there’s always the option to shave, ahem, other areas - but good lord, that itches - unless one keeps the habit up, rather than doing it as a one-time thing. Hm. Hmm… (“Imagine if someone saw you, Jack. Would you tell them you’re a drag queen?” ;))
(the above certainly beats the default of putting him in lacy knickers for a week. Y’know, I think lace chafes. God only knows how vexing it would be on a fella’s anatomy. Ow!)
Forced crossdressing is a laughable idea, and got thrown out long before rape fantasy did.
I’ve half a mind to have the lads get into a bit edge play, once the relationship is well established. More to the point, Ianto could scare Jack pretty badly. After all, if a guy’s pretty much immobile around another chap with a knife who suggests that it was rather stupid of said subbie to be in such a vulnerable position in the vicinity of the chap who is still, very very angry about what happened to his g/f and you might not be killable, but you can still be hurt. Ianto actually has no intention of hurting Jack, really, but the boy can lie like a rug. Rather it’s just another trust situation - although in this case, Jack’s going to be severely tempted to blow it and peek into Ianto’s mind to confirm that he is safe. But, as I am a nice author, we’ll have Jack resist that temptation, although he will admit it to Ianto, afterwards. Ianto will be very pleased that Jack was a good lad and respected a boundary (no telepathy!) under duress and will no doubt do something nice to/for Jack, in return.
I think Ianto’s showing every sign of turning into a mind-fucker of the first order. *chortle*
And now I need a long, cold shower. Or a spanking. Possibly both.
This isn’t about Jack and Ianto getting their jollies - that’s actually almost an incidental part of what’s going on. This might be the least explicit/pervy d/s fic ever written, in fact. (Noo!!!)
Jack is willing to submit to Ianto, as a means of earning his trust - by taking the big step of trusting him, first. It will work, quite startlingly well, but trust is not built in a day. Hence my grumbling about this possibly becoming an epic-length piece. It took seven pages for them to agree to do it in the first place, the long-winded little darlings.
Ianto is still a bit angry and resentful about what happened to Lisa, although that is now being polluted - or diluted - by his realization that he could have handled the situation differently and, perhaps, things might have been better had he been honest with the team from the beginning. So he’s not just flat-out angry any more. Furthermore, he’s an intelligent enough lad to not take that anger out on Jack although, god knows, the temptation is there at times. For more on that, see edge-play, below.
Backstory because it’s not like Dom!Ianto just sprang out of thin air. Well, he did, really, but we need some context for the tale. Imho, Ianto is, in fact, quite the switch and is simply smart enough and flexible enough (and, okay, filthy-minded enough) to handle either role, depending on the situation. It was a part of his life with Lisa, but more like the rainbow sprinkles, not the entire sundae. Ianto had more serious d/s relationships in his past. Once Lisa was trapped in her cyber body, she actually encouraged him to at least pursue a few one-nighters, for the sake of release. He occasionally did - once he got past that initial guilt - and, on rare occasions, kept his hand in, so to speak. Will any of this come out during the course of the fic(s)? Probably. I like context.
Jack has never sub’d before - not for real. He’s played games, he’s pretended, but that sort of lying is not acceptable in this context. At first, it isn’t going to be all that easy. It certainly won’t feel quite right, and that will be clear to both participants. Ianto will work well within Jack’s boundaries, and focus heavily on rewarding good behavior. Everything will start very slowly, very low-key - no dragging out the St. Andrew’s cross on the second date (sorry, kids).
They are both committed to this course of action, though. Secondary factors are, of course, the sheer sweaty appeal of it all. Jack knows that Ianto can keep a secret (and how!) and Ianto knows the same of Jack. As long as their activity is limited to Jack’s quarters and after hours, they both feel (and are) safe, which means they’re utterly free to do as they wish, within that safe place. The sanctity of that is important to them both.
Should Jack’s hormones get the better of him and he makes a play for Ianto outside that safe place, he’ll encounter a very different Ianto (and contrariwise) because that role that Ianto has taken on is limited to the strictly defined time-and-place. Switchy!Ianto will be quite the (pleasant) surprise for Jack, should it ever be encountered - no promises that I’ll ever write that, though.
Ianto, apparently quite independent of any input from the frelling writer (he left me behind a while ago), has decided that his outfit for d/s sessions with Jack is a charcoal gray silk shirt, black wool slacks and a black leather belt that’s just a little heavier than one would expect a chap to wear with those trousers. (“Nice shoes.” “I’m glad you like them. You’ll be licking them clean if they get dirty.” Dammit, Ianto!)
So, as mentioned, things will start slowly. Ianto will focus on “forcing” Jack to do things he generally wants to do anyway. Once Jack is thinking “Hey, this isn’t so difficult! Kinda fun, actually.”, then Ianto starts bringing out the more complex situations.
Wary of Jack’s past and training, restraints are not necessarily the first order of the day. Earlier stage activities would include enforced chastity, withholding orgasm, and (for want of a better word) exposure/forced nudity. (Mental note: must go refresh terminology. Where’d I put my copy of The Bottoming Book?).
…And let’s not underestimate the appeal of Jack-as-sex-toy. Neither Ianto nor Jack are raising any objection to that one, go figure. Ianto will focus on taking his pleasure from Jack while (ostensibly) not paying any attention to Jack’s pleasure.
Rape fantasy doesn’t strike me as Jack’s cup of tea - although it certainly is a hell of a submission. But no, I can’t see that as Jack’s kink, nor would Ianto push that particular boundary, so out the window that goes. Ditto the (imho) extreme kinks such as WS, scat, etc. Play piercing, however, has not been ruled out. Nor has permanent piercing for that matter, but that falls under effects lasting outside the safe space, so that’s very much an if/when situation.
Ianto will try - not always succeed, but will try - to never refer to outside events, nor tie them in to the rewards/punishments that are being doled out in the safe space. He wants Jack to be able to maintain an even keel when in the real world (such as it is), and not risk having his hormones take over at a bad time, potentially endangering him, the team, etc. The only exception to this would be a situation like the one, below - an action/behavior imposed during an encounter, the effect of which outlasts the encounter. Indeed, the leg-shaving incident a couple of paragraphs down might be a first step in moving their interaction outside of the safe area of Jack’s quarters, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
I can perceive the notion of Ianto also testing his own limits during some early encounters - not that he’d share that with Jack, or not at first. Little things like having a well-defined plan of action, and not allowing himself to rush through it/cut corners, just because he wants to. Such challenges can remind a top of their obligations, non? No fucking the bottom’s brain out until they specifically beg for it. No moving on to the nipple clamps until after his ass is rosy pink from a spanking, etc. (Toppy folks, feel free to contribute because, damn, I’m just extrapolating from a bottom’s POV, here). I’ve a particularly wicked vision of Ianto denying himself permission to come on Jack’s face, just to see if he can follow through with a self-imposed restraint. *blink* I'm not sure how much sense that makes but, damn, I like it.
Fodder for a whole scene is buried in that above paragraph. Compel a sub to articulate exactly what they want, because they won’t get it until they clearly and coherently ask for it. I don’t know about the rest of you subs out there, but I get frightfully tongue-tied and shy during a scene, or so it seems to me in my admittedly hormone-addled memory, which is a shame because dirty talk is so freaking hawt. This would certainly be one way for a top to make that happen, and if the bottom is embarassed by it, but really wants to do it, then fun is had by all.
At the other end of the scale, I might have to dust off the “You get two words. Please and more.” Scene I wrote out yonks ago. Hawtness with a two word vocabulary.
Don’t ask me why, but Ianto’s suggesting that at some point, he tells Jack to shave his legs - er, Jack’s legs, that is - because that will leave them feeling weird for the next few days and will be thinking of him/them for the duration. Trust me, guys, freshly shaved legs feel funky, albeit in a very sensual way - as long as you remember to moisturize! Of course, there’s always the option to shave, ahem, other areas - but good lord, that itches - unless one keeps the habit up, rather than doing it as a one-time thing. Hm. Hmm… (“Imagine if someone saw you, Jack. Would you tell them you’re a drag queen?” ;))
(the above certainly beats the default of putting him in lacy knickers for a week. Y’know, I think lace chafes. God only knows how vexing it would be on a fella’s anatomy. Ow!)
Forced crossdressing is a laughable idea, and got thrown out long before rape fantasy did.
I’ve half a mind to have the lads get into a bit edge play, once the relationship is well established. More to the point, Ianto could scare Jack pretty badly. After all, if a guy’s pretty much immobile around another chap with a knife who suggests that it was rather stupid of said subbie to be in such a vulnerable position in the vicinity of the chap who is still, very very angry about what happened to his g/f and you might not be killable, but you can still be hurt. Ianto actually has no intention of hurting Jack, really, but the boy can lie like a rug. Rather it’s just another trust situation - although in this case, Jack’s going to be severely tempted to blow it and peek into Ianto’s mind to confirm that he is safe. But, as I am a nice author, we’ll have Jack resist that temptation, although he will admit it to Ianto, afterwards. Ianto will be very pleased that Jack was a good lad and respected a boundary (no telepathy!) under duress and will no doubt do something nice to/for Jack, in return.
I think Ianto’s showing every sign of turning into a mind-fucker of the first order. *chortle*
And now I need a long, cold shower. Or a spanking. Possibly both.