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aka Britgeekgrrl ([personal profile] fangrrl_squees) wrote2006-11-06 06:52 am

Torchwood: Cyberwoman - So Much for That Theory

Well, drat.

Some rummaging around in the press release archive over at gallifreyone.net has blown my carefully-crafted coping mechanism re: the quality of Cyberwoman. It was no earlier than fifth on the production schedule, as the first four eps shot were Day One, Everything Changes, Ghost Machine and Greeks Bearing Gifts (eps 1, 2, 3 and 8, respectively).

And just to rub salt in the wound, Cyberwoman was directed by James Strong, who I thought did pretty darn well with The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit - although I thought some bits of TSP in particular were a bit overblown, I must admit, if nowhere near as heavy as what I watched last night.

*muttergrumble*

Strong is apparently directing at least two eps this season, and if the other one's a clanger, too, I'll be inclined to consider TIP a fluke. Ah well.

[identity profile] moviegrrl.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Cyberwoman was directed by James Strong, who I thought did pretty darn well with The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit

As did I...
Cock.

[identity profile] fangrrl-squees.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm now utilizing the backup defense of "Everyone has an off day"

James Strong is directing at least one more eps in the series, and Chris Chibner (the writer who, it seems, I must club unconcious with his keyboard) has another one coming up, too - although it's not clear if Strong will be directing it.

I'll be interested in comparing the next efforts of both of those crew members, to see how they rate when not working in concert - ie, how will Strong interpret a non-Chibner script, and how will Chibner's story be handled by someone other than Strong... Further thoughts as such events warrant, of course.

[identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
PS - pardon me, it's "Chibnall" not "Chibner" - that's what I get for sneaking on to the net at work without poppping by G1.com first. ;)

being wrong

[identity profile] genus-loci.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice to know you're good enough to admit publically when you're wrong and don't instead stick more firmly to your guns leading to detractors humiliating you. Personally I thought you were incorrect but it had been ages since I saw references to the shooting schedule. You didn't seem wrong enough to bother tracking down the info online to prove it (plus I wasn't entirely sure). The combined shooting of the first two episodes was probably what lead to the weaknesses in the "I want sex" alien episode. Your worry must be that it will go downhill from here (oh no, Ianto grimaces again!), but character development pieces depend on the acting abilities of the cast.

This was hmm a too American an episode dare I say it, well you're British so who cares? - heavy on the special effects and light on the method acting.


TIP

[identity profile] genus-loci.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
TIP was a completely different premise and cast. TSP had moments of over lengthy exposition but was on the whole good. Remember though Torchwood does not equal Dr Who. The latter had more clout to get experienced actors/extras. Torchwood being new is populated by relative unknowns.

Re: TIP

[identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
TIP also had a lot of the same themes going on', tho - trust, secrets and claustrophobia, off the top of my head.

More when I'm not supposed to be doing workstuff. :)

Re: TIP

[identity profile] genus-loci.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes but it had a better "baddie" :)

Ahh yes, same here really, but being self-employed means you don't have a boss looking over your shoulder. :)

I didn't really think it was that claustrophobic - you need smaller rooms/lifts/cupboards to be like that. This was more CSI action than "oh dear we're all trapped". Jack showed his military background though when he acted as leader.

You've got to expect secrets though - after all they are a "secret organisation" known only to the local pizza company - lol. Sounds a bit like my job at times - the pizza company bit anyway. It's got to be expected in a situation like Torchwood that there will be secrets within secrets. They make their living from (at times) not telling the whole truth to people. So, a torchwood member hiding something from the others (especially personal stuff) is about as predictable as finding out a intelligence operative lied to get the information they needed. It does highlight though the Western tendency to be so self-absorbed in your own life you don't realise what's happening to those around you until it's too late.

Re: TIP

[identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, the "baddie" in TIP kinda irritated me, mostly because I like things nicely defined and categorized. I'm willing to concede that I'm asking for a bit much in that particular case.

However, I thought it was excellently put together, and the scene where Legion's talking to Toby and telling him to not turn around still freaks me out, despite (honestly) being just a wee bit melodramatic. ;)

Re: TIP

[identity profile] genus-loci.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the "baddie" I found interesting as they weren't just rehashing old plots or old enemies. Sometimes an element of mystery and intrigue helps with the suspense - but then I can see we view it slightly differently.

Yep but it did have a rather "WWII submarine movie" feel to it. The part where the ship starts sinking and flooding. Regarding the part where Toby gives that look to the camera, it was a good touch. After all it's making the episode remembered isn't it? Well especially since that usericon of it.
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[identity profile] agentxpndble.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit

Isn't that interesting... That's what I watched waiting for TW to download. :-) I've got a huge burbbling post in me about those eps... Just sort of waiting for one of my friends to catch up before I get into it all.

[identity profile] fangrrl-squees.livejournal.com 2006-11-06 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I eagerly await the post! :)